If we believe absurdities,
we shall commit atrocities.
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
Penile skin bridges are an uncommon complication of circumcision that are often found in general practice. Office management of penile skin bridges
with electrocautery.
Adam's blood was drained from his body after he was killed, but his genitals were undamaged. A further clue lies in the fact that Adam, who was between four and seven years old, was also circumcised. "Thames torso boy was sacrificed ", Guardian (UK), June 2, 2002
Bill Maher: You're comparing cutting off children's arms to cutting off the end of a
penis of a little baby for - Politically Incorrect, Feb 1, 2001
The movie has nudity of native people and of an artist's model, plus brief scenes from a public mass circumcision of young Asmat boys put on for tourists. No cannibalism, violence or sexuality is shown, just discussed. - Review of "Keep the River on your Right"
Stretching or 'growing back' the foreskin is a form of genital mutilation.... - Prof. Brian Morris in "The Unkindest Cut?"
There are no deaths today from medical circumcisions in developed countries. - Prof. Brian Morris on his website in 2006.
There is a big anti-circumcision campaign out there run by lunatic-fringe organisations - Prof. Brian Morris in The Australian, August 27, 2007.
Lamenting the loss of parts we discarded as children, whether it be baby teeth, appendixes or even tonsils, is not only misguided, it's downright silly. - Prof. Brian Morris in his website, (August 31, 2007)
The mohel ... places a shield on the penis ... and draws the blade along ... along the shield, making sure that no injury can come to the child. - Rabbi Jeremy Lawrence in "The Naked Penis"
Nobody has ever complained [about being circumcised] before. - an administrator in the Australian College of General Practitioners, early 1980s
To see circumcision as "carving off a piece of an infant's genitals" - now that is sick! - John Pritchard on alt.circumcision, September 28, 2000
SHMENDRICK, no scars on my CIRCUMCISED SHMECKLE!! - DarrinT68 on alt.circumcision, August 16, 2000
[To circumcise to cure hyperactivity] is certainly more natural than using drugs like Ritalin - chelle_ken on ParentSpace, Feb 24, 2000
Although it doesn't cut away anything from the penis itself... - "Everything you always wanted to know about sex*
Getting cut does not reduce the size........that is the stupidist thing I have heard..... - Intoxicatingmoon on alt.circumcision, 21 Mar 2003
circumcised men aren't missing anything - Stuart Brown
Nothing is removed. - a poster on alt.men
it's only like having your hair cut off - a poster on alt.men
Man is the only creature on earth that has a foreskin..... - a poster on alt.men
Ah, you hate >forced< circumcision. But you apparently have nothing against forced non-circumcision [of neonates]. - wadi
No Hugh my penis is all there, just the redundant sheath has been removed. - wadi
... it is not part of the penis but rather a mammalian penile sheath of no sexual value. - wadi
[Circumcision] needs no justification. Its as natural an occurance as taking a dump. - wadi
Nobody is "hacking off pieces" of anything. - wadi
I was stunned by the natural beauty of the large, brownish, denuded glans that was proudly exposed to everyone's eyes. - a Hungarian writing on Circlist
The breast provides, but the knife protects. It channels a father's natural anger and jealousy [at the son's intimacy with his mother] into one controlled cut. He takes off one small part in order to preserve - and love - the whole. - Rabbi Joshua J Hammerman in "Good Weekend" May 28, 1994
Among those preferring a circumcised penis, the reasons they indicated ... Seems more natural (77%) - Williamson ML and Williamson PS,
Smegma is not a natural body odor. From: darrint68@aol.com (DarrinT68)
circumcision does not reduce the size of a fully erect penis. - bob <bobbob@ix.netcom.com>
There's really no way a circ can affect penis size (outside of rare instances of clear medical malpractice). - Paul Hagen <prhagen@bitstream.net>
...the foreskin is the remnant of a sheath from when we were primates. - the "From Sex to Superconsciousness" List
Anyone who is against circumcision is obviously anti-God and anti-religion. - "Dr" Laura, Jan 19, 2000
'Women who have sex with circumcised men enjoy better health in general.' - unattributed
I have polled many women on their thoughts on circumcision, and their responses were all the same. . . :"eeewww! that's just nasty, [an intact penis] looks like a friggin mutation!" Clay C Winslager
Clamps are used during circumcision to protect the penis... Reuters Health
From the autopsy of Charles J. Guiteau, the assassin of Presedent Garfield, after his execution: - from The History of Phimosis
A little pain never hurt anyone! - "Intoxicatingmoon" on alt.circumcision, September 9, 2002
Also as American farmers needed sons to take care of them when they could not farm. Circumcision was used as a last attempt to have male offsprings!!!!!! - "Pegasus 1959" on alt.circumcision on May 30, 2003 | |||||||||||||||||||
| Lon Vaughn and his wife, Jennifer, were divided. She was of the "if it's natural, leave it alone" view, he said. But Lon prevailed, he said, because he'd once been a boy in gym class and knew how important it was to be "normal."
"It's hard enough for a kid to grow up," says Vaughn, a small-business owner who lives in Ballard. The last thing you want, he says, is to "draw attention to your genitalia." Being laughed at, he thinks, could scar a boy for life. |
"The circumcision decision: Merits of procedure debated"
By Carol M. Ostrom
Seattle Times, July 9, 2003
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Infant dies after home circumcision ... Detectives found no visible marks on the infant's body.... |
- Munster Espress Online, August 22, 2003
The CA service is remarkably efficient. No patient has had to wait more than two weeks from consultation to operation (compare that with NHS waiting lists!). As a result, more adult men than infants are booking into an Agency clinic for the convenience.
- The Circumcision Agency website
"Flatt was not forced to be circumcised, or prohibited from being circumcised. The medical decision was left to him and his parents."
(Flatt was one day old at the time.)
- Douglas Bahr, assistant attorney general
Grand Forks Herald, May 12, 2004
"With this clamp, used correctly, there's zero chance of hurting the baby's penis."
- Elizabeth Lister, Ob-Gyn, in Penn & Teller's Bullshˇt!
explaining her
"proper circumcision" technique.
"That there is necessarily an interference with bodily integrity does not mean that the child's right to bodily integrity is thereby infringed. Parents are only doing to their children what the overwhelming preponderance of them would wish done were they able to express a view. The ritual removal of a child's foreskin enhances that child's bodily integrity."
A child's right to circumcision - M. Freeman
I don't think that circumcision is necessarily body modification.
- Benami {/wiki/User:Benami} on Wikipedia Talk: Circumcision, 23 January, 2006
And it’s not cutting your penis it’s just cutting the excess foreskin.
Bloghead commenting on Andrew Tavani's "To chop or not to chop", February 25, 2006
"You cannot compare a male and female circumcision! Male is done for medical and other reason and keeps the penis intact and fully functional."
"IsThereAnyName" writing at MSN, March 7, 2007
"my son's genitals were NOT CUT ... he had some excess skin removed and his penis was left hole and healthy and functioning.."
"danger within" writing at MSN, March 11, 2007
fintax wrote: |
| No, I was comparing the foreskin to warts. That, sir or madam, was brilliant. |
Barrow19, implying the foreskin is not part of the penis, at MSN , April 7, 2007
I don’t know if they are “intact” whatever that means. I am intact and circumcised.
This is not a “human rights” issue nor an “ethical” issue.
- "Shriber" in the Jewish Daily Forward, July 22, 2007.
There´s no "less penis" after circumcision - just a more favourable ratio of penis to skin - where on earth did you get the ridiculous idea that circumcision makes for "less cock"?
Richard Yorkshire writing on Fathermag.com, 2007-10-18 02:26
A top Israeli rabbi was injured in a circumcision accident.
Rabbi Yosef Shalom Eliashiv, leader of the powerful Lithuanian religious movement, served as
godfather at a Jerusalem brit Wednesday but suffered a deep cut to his hand, apparently when the
mohel slipped.
The 97-year-old sage received stitches and was declared well. The baby was unharmed. ...
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"Sage hurt in brit mishap" JTA, November 15, 2007
Ive circumsized my boys but to each his own!
Bossy304 writing to BET.com</P>
The bell fell off and there was no bleeding, no infection, no scarring, no destruction to the penis or organ at all.
Kimanika writing to Birthtalks ®</P>
...there is no invasive procedure done...
Mark T. writing to the New York Times, December 3, 2007
Those opposed to circumcision say you need to foreskin [sic] for sex, but this doesn’t make sense. Sex is very complex -- it starts with hormones in the brain, and it just wouldn’t make sense if the foreskin had anything to do with it. [Try that with "penis" instead of "foreskin"...]
Dr Edgar Schoen, writing in The Nest Baby
Complications of circumcision
Happily, complications of circumcision are relatively rare, although they may be under-reported following religious or cultural circumcision. For this reason, figures on the rate of complications may not be reliable. Complications include:
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